That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. There are currently no models in your cart. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. What's lacking? He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. So if you think about that when we try selling just 3D models we are actually loosing a great deal of the market. ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. Better for who? They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. I have to be honest about my view else who am i. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. Every market needs time, every business needs it. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. In this case the fastest support can not help. What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Of those limited people just a hand full would actually buy models or put money towards models so if TS already has won those people we need to find our own nitch or we go out of business. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. This is the Tesla Model 3. i like the points system on cg trader . You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. This is why: It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? The site owners could also act on other various levels : --GENERAL--. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. 60% is an insult. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. Turbosquid is the exact opposite. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. Payment Method 2. You can upload a 20 mb large model here with 3 formats, 20 photos, 100 wording text, 20 tags in around 20 minutes. Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. TS can go to Hell, and never return again. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. CGtrader is more in line with modern economics and following the model of open participation businesses, all these things make it have the hallmarks of successfully serving a growing team with highly ambitious members and top talented achievers (and also stronger support of the CG community itself). or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. Ps. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . Animated Camel 3D Model 13. We are looking for contributors. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! While this tactic worked very well at first and allowed to draw that many sellers in relatively short period of time, now it's time to think about buyers, as without them sellers will start to starve. i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. Here at CGtrader you can do all of that and much much more which is awesome!! While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. NoneCG will be up for it. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. I will very much want to peruse. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. And I've done the same thing on Turbosquid, in the same period of time. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. it is a sad reality, some sellers are ready to buy a model of their competitor to post a bad rating. The classic idea of exclusivity, division and concealment as a strategy to get to a monopolistic position is bad for the industry and everyone is coming to the realization how bad it rely is. Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. If you have any questions about these. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. 2. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. See the reputation, see the response rate, realise the problem will be fixed. CGT needs to get on Amazon a.s.a.p or partner with all the top leading commercial comps in order to make 3D more interesting to more buyers.
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