Id like to, but my current living situation and potential job changes/living situations dont allow for me to set up an area for reloading. Ruger, super Blackhawk 357, maximum 10 1/2 inch barrel in excellent condition and fire very little comes with original box and papers. Marlin made a name for themselves offering an improved version of the Winchester action starting in the 1880s. Browning created the 1892 to compete with the Marlin 1888, and according to legend, completed the work in two weeks. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Relevant to what? Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! And .45-70 would be awesome, too. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. I never got to shoot either. My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. I dont live in big bear country. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. Item Number: 534196137. Thanks for reading! Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Guys that do this are, shall we saypreoccupied with velocity, which is usually the product of light bullets and fast-burning powder.I believe that a failure to appreciate the complexities of this cartridge, the bullets available for it and the proper propellants applicable were a major reason why it passed early. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. Low dollar lever gun joy is in your future. 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. 45-70. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". That Blackhawk in .357 Maximum was a very short lived gun. Its so ugly I love it. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. but I can welcome You to the forum. So for me, the perfect single-caliber combo would be .357 Mag wheelgun at the hip holster, and lever gun such as one of those shown in the article above. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. Here's the 357 Maximum story: Back in the 1980's there was a silhouette competition for pistols out to 200 yards. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. 357 maximum - Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. Curious that this article features only the most expensive versions of .357 carbines. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. Your buddys Italian .357 was probably a Chiappa. It's accuracy is outstanding. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. It was an 1895 GBL. I have become a fan. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. 357 maximum load data! - ACCURATE RELOADING Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. Blame it on the Covid 19 pandemic. Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. 357 maximum vs 350 legend | The High Road .357 Maximum || .355 | 140gr | Sellier & Bellot FMJ I have one with the turnstile safety. Looking for 357 mg 200 gr hard cast data - Alaska Outdoors Forums Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. SAAMI documents dated 2005 list it as inactive.. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum. With that said, should your fancy be tickled, here are five .357 Magnum lever action rifles to look for. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? . Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 8,125. 357 Maximum | Black Dog Ammunition Build a Ruger#1. GunBroker.com Forums. get the Lee hand press. 5 Great .357 Magnum Lever Action Rifles - The Truth About Guns The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. Jan 23, 2014. AS ALWAYS, START ABOUT 10% LOW AND WORK UP! The targets were heavy and had to be hit hard and in the right place. Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. We show you how. 357 Magnum Lever Action - Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: Just, reading the article reminded me about it. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. 357 maximum-350 legend | Shooters' Forum The powerful Ruger 77/357 is chambered in .357 Mag. The.357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. First off, a .357 lever is almost as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. So its a one-two-three punch. Theyre also legal everywhere, even states with the most draconian gun control. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. Im just trying to figure out why in the hell a Marlin 357 lever gun has to retail at nearly 3 times what the same gun in 30-30 retails for. Caveat Emptor. They should come from the factory that way. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. .357 Maximum | The Firearms Forum Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. Hot and spiced with nutmeg and cinnamon on a cold day kicks ass, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/56/4e/97564e38ab918eae2103ffa40b24f0c1.jpg. Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" Read Their Fine Print!! The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. It shouts very well that way. Ive wanted one for years. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. 357 maximum rifle for sale on GunsAmerica. Buy a 357 maximum by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post At that task, it has excelled for more than a century. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. The long narrow case is not well suited to propellants much faster than the 2400-class propellants. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. On the other hand, I own a .357 Uberti 1873 sporting Deluxe 24.5 octagonal barrel rifle and the thing is drop dead sexy, and fun to shoot. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. Ammo Boxes and Storage Containers for Sale | Midsouth Shooters COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. This rifle has a ton of modern flair that you may be used to seeing on semi-automatic sporting rifles. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon . Because the title of the article is Five great not Five cheap.. When I lived in the mountains caretaking a state property, soon learned the first day of hunting season would see the deer herd moving onto the property, bedding down behind the residence and the snow plow shed. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. With straight-walled cartridges, you dont need a dedicated space. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Meet The 5 Best .357 and .38 Caliber Guns On Planet Earth I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. And they repeat that statement in the new book about Samuel Colt. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. Proof-fired it and it stood up. That is fast. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. Personally I like Blue Dot, and Bullseye for plinking rounds. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. And of course my Marlin comes back today from the warranty repair and they still havent fixed the main issue I sent it in for. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? 357 Magnum Ammo for Sale Up to 24% Off - OpticsPlanet The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. We are not currently living in such times, when even steel-cased Russian 9mm is sold off the shelves at ridiculous markups. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. 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Thirdly, in ordinary political/economic times .38 and .357 ammo is plentiful, ubiquitous, and affordable. As Im not a horseman, I didnt think much of it beyond that. Reloading The .357 Magnum - Reload Ammo Christmas is coming. Max. I don't think it is possible due to OAL differences. Not everything has to be tactically sound. JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices.